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Walrus
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LoMTools Update

I've concluded my communications with Staff/GMs about the posting of LoMTools URLs on these forums. The answer was unfortunately as expected a resounding "no".

This leaves us with a bit of a catch 22, whereas they don't want to have ppl post links to "unverified external programs", by barring these links from the forums the program spreads uncontrolled by the author (myself) around the net. Ppl are unable to determine the valid sites and mirrors to download from, thus increasing the chance they may get a copy with a free trojan, exactly what the staff were trying to prevent.

The best advice I can give is to ensure the download you get of LoMTools is v2.0.007, and that the downloaded file is called "LoMTools v2.0.007.exe" and has an MD5 signature of 86E1-04FB-B4F0-C1DA-87D5-048A-B83C-DE20.

I will leave it to yourselves to find the program on the net, if you wish to communicate with myself about it, the ONLY other LoM forum I frequent as Walrus is TotalFormat.com.

Needless to say I'm dissapointed with the decision, whereas I wasn't expecting blanket approval of the program, it would have been nice to have seen "nice program we can't strictly approve, but change this/these elements and we shall allow a forum link".

I shall be monitoring closely when v2.0.008 is released to see how many times it is downloaded. Of the 300+ ppl using v2.0.007 I would expect a good majority to update. Of course, if the denial of access from these forums significantly affects these figure I shall have to seriously consider scrapping the whole thing and moving the time used on LoMTools to new coding projects.

I can't really see the issue with the current program, barring the Inventory viewer, which has always caused some "hot debate", to be perfectly honest the information stored in inventory files shouldn't be there anyway, but seeing as it is my intention was to make sure it was visible to all and not just a elite minority who figured it out.

The map and object viewer are "grey areas", but I wonder just how many fan site graphics and avatars have been made from these and similar tools.

Anyway, this thread will be pretty much the last you hear of LoMTools from myself on these forums, barring a change of heart from Staff/GMs.

Thank you all for your support to date.

Previous thread for reference

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good app's for a online game aint good. and staff dnt even agree like they did with lom protector, msut be saying something, but its good mate, dnt give it up. im sure some people will still use it..

good luck in the future

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try get it on mirtravern... or is it already ??? i not been for a while

i have to say LoMTools is great.. i love playin around with it hehe.. nice work m8

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quote:
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good app's for a online game aint good. and staff dnt even agree like they did with lom protector, msut be saying something, but its good mate, dnt give it up. im sure some people will still use it..

good luck in the future


Say's the person who slated it in the previous thread. Why do you even bother posting such bull****?

And even accusations of you adding a virus into the program and then hosting it on your own site... jesus h christ. If you're going to make several comments on a topic, then at least keep your opinion the same between them, for those out there who care about it anyway.

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Say's the person who slated it in the previous thread. Why do you even bother posting such bull****?

And even accusations of you adding a virus into the program and then hosting it on your own site... jesus h christ. If you're going to make several comments on a topic, then at least keep your opinion the same between them, for those out there who care about it anyway.



im sry to go off topic but i always wanted to no this


wat does the H stand for in Jesus H Christ?

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Holy I believe. Although its quite possible im wrong lol.... stupid alcohol >.<

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Holy I believe. Although its quite possible im wrong lol.... stupid alcohol >.<


roflmao.. chears m8..

spamin ere >.<

erm lom tools *thinks*

one quesiton sometimes wen i log out and log in lom tools and loopk at char name i dont see items.. only happens sometimes but is there a reason u no of for this>

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I find LoMtools very useful, a shame the staff dont see the value in it

I will continue using future versions, but i will make sure the file is genuine before using it

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Holy I believe. Although its quite possible im wrong lol.... stupid alcohol >.<


http://www.straightdope.com/classics/a1_033.html

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gale necklace dont work on lom tools..

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gale necklace dont work on lom tools..


Well it may have done if you had replied to my question the first time you raised this in a prior post. I'm a programmer, not a magician.

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lom tools is gr8 just a shame u have to log out to see what dura it is ><

n e way around this or is it a must ?

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lom tools is gr8 just a shame u have to log out to see what dura it is ><

n e way around this or is it a must ?



Yes there is a way round it, a program we can call ML. Seeing exact durations of items ingame is 'crossing the line' between interesting program and exploitative program imo, a line I'm not prepared to cross. ML is an interesting piece of code, I do wonder why there are not "equivalent" programs out there, it really isn't that difficult to do.

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